Took about 50 shots to finally get one. The only downside is that it was a shed buck. If it was not for the fact that he made some great table fare I might have felt bad about this one. However I guess we as hunters need to do a little house cleaning to help keep the a good healthy balance in nature and I am all about doing my part. Now I am hoping it does not take me 50 more shots to get another with the old flintlock.