I hunted in Fl. this past year and had some experiance with dog hunters and i have to say that i think that it is a lazy and unfair way to harvest deer. what are your thoughts on it.
I'm with you. It's not a fair chase. Most people will say hunting isn't about being fair. Whether it is or it isn't, there is no sport in hunting them with a dog that I can see. Only thing I like seeing chased by dogs is hogs and that's only because they can and do fight back.
I see no problem with using dogs for cougar and bear. Hound hunting is a necessary conservation tool that I really wish could be utilized in the PNW to control predator populations.
Lived in VA. for some years and DON'T care for running deer w/ dogs. I've seen too many people wound deer by taking shots from too far away w/ buckshot and 90 % of the time they are running shots. plus a lot of people loose dogs that continue to run deer even after season. My biggest reason is that Deer can run themselves to death, a dog cant.... There is nothing more exciting then hearing the Hounds open up when they get on a trail but save it for the coons.
Another valid point...deer don't climb trees! I used to love watching my bird dogs work a field and it is certainly a great social sport to run the coon hounds at night. It's probably because of how I was raised that I'll always object to hunting deer with dogs. Deer will leave an area in it is inhospitable and if they are pursued by dogs, they are likely to leave. I want my deer to stay local.
I don't know about deer hunting in marshy areas and maybe hunting them with dogs there is more successful and more fair, but here in Tennessee it is frowned upon by most.
In the deep south where i am it is looked at like a good sport yet they sit on there trucks drinking coffee wating for the dogs to do all of the work. they also in my experiences dont even look to see if there is any one still hunting first.
It is unfair when you use a trained predator against wild herbivores. It's leaving the deer no option at all but to run into death. It's cheating - it's not actually getting out there on your own, stalking upon your stand or a bed or staking out, using your own tools and methods to locate them, draw them in, or wait for them. I don't mind using dogs AFTER the hunt, but I am not going to participate in any dog runs. I've never gotten the chance to hunt other predators, like coyotes and cats; the only ones I've shot have been ones that crossed under my stand at the right moment. Once I get my results from my experiment back, I might consider taking the dogs on predator hunts - but that's a big "might."
I myself use a huntaway cross dog and hunt Red, fallow and sika deer in the native bush in new zealand. The dog is used to locate the deer in the harsh mountainous regions of heavy thick set bush but only locate, she will not approach the deer under 50 to 100 meters and this leaves a lot of work still for the hunter to locate an exact position of the animal in bush where you can see a maximum clear shot at times of only 20 to 30 feet. You should try it before you dismiss it having a companion you grow with and spend endless days stalking with can be a truly rewarding and exhillerating experience.
Well here in Vermont you are more than likely to get shot at for doing something like that and scaring all the deer away. I hate it, last year we had a man come to our door and tell us his dog chased a buck down in our field and he wants to shoot it. We told him, 1. our property is posted, and 2. we don't like people using their dogs to chase deer. He in return told us, "Well you should let me get him, 'cause my dog tore up his back legs chasing him, and he'll probably be in a lot of pain."
Well we chased him off our property and later my Grandpa had to go out and find the deer and put it out of its misery. His back legs were torn down to the bone and the poor thing couldn't even stand when we found it. The worst thing of all, was that the buck was only a couple years old, and a 3 pointer.
it not hunting useing dogs on deer . my buddy did start his dog on blood tracking and we have used him to track deer and 2 bears and we havent lost a deer or a bear thanks to that little dog.i think that is the only place for a dog in the deer woods.
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John Jackson
I'm with you. It's not a fair chase. Most people will say hunting isn't about being fair. Whether it is or it isn't, there is no sport in hunting them with a dog that I can see. Only thing I like seeing chased by dogs is hogs and that's only because they can and do fight back.seth baker
I agree with that not because they fight back but because they are a ferrel and not suposed to be there.haleigh malone
i myself enjoy coon hunting with dogs more then anythingJared Benson
I see no problem with using dogs for cougar and bear. Hound hunting is a necessary conservation tool that I really wish could be utilized in the PNW to control predator populations.Corey Becker
For coon hunting and cougar or bear I can see using dogs but not for anything else. It is just not sporting.Tim Maxim
Lived in VA. for some years and DON'T care for running deer w/ dogs. I've seen too many people wound deer by taking shots from too far away w/ buckshot and 90 % of the time they are running shots. plus a lot of people loose dogs that continue to run deer even after season. My biggest reason is that Deer can run themselves to death, a dog cant.... There is nothing more exciting then hearing the Hounds open up when they get on a trail but save it for the coons.John Jackson
Another valid point...deer don't climb trees! I used to love watching my bird dogs work a field and it is certainly a great social sport to run the coon hounds at night. It's probably because of how I was raised that I'll always object to hunting deer with dogs. Deer will leave an area in it is inhospitable and if they are pursued by dogs, they are likely to leave. I want my deer to stay local.I don't know about deer hunting in marshy areas and maybe hunting them with dogs there is more successful and more fair, but here in Tennessee it is frowned upon by most.
seth baker
In the deep south where i am it is looked at like a good sport yet they sit on there trucks drinking coffee wating for the dogs to do all of the work. they also in my experiences dont even look to see if there is any one still hunting first.Audra Goss
It is unfair when you use a trained predator against wild herbivores. It's leaving the deer no option at all but to run into death. It's cheating - it's not actually getting out there on your own, stalking upon your stand or a bed or staking out, using your own tools and methods to locate them, draw them in, or wait for them. I don't mind using dogs AFTER the hunt, but I am not going to participate in any dog runs. I've never gotten the chance to hunt other predators, like coyotes and cats; the only ones I've shot have been ones that crossed under my stand at the right moment. Once I get my results from my experiment back, I might consider taking the dogs on predator hunts - but that's a big "might."darryl jones
I myself use a huntaway cross dog and hunt Red, fallow and sika deer in the native bush in new zealand. The dog is used to locate the deer in the harsh mountainous regions of heavy thick set bush but only locate, she will not approach the deer under 50 to 100 meters and this leaves a lot of work still for the hunter to locate an exact position of the animal in bush where you can see a maximum clear shot at times of only 20 to 30 feet. You should try it before you dismiss it having a companion you grow with and spend endless days stalking with can be a truly rewarding and exhillerating experience.seth baker
We are talking about the american way it is done not any other way.Olivia St. James
Well here in Vermont you are more than likely to get shot at for doing something like that and scaring all the deer away. I hate it, last year we had a man come to our door and tell us his dog chased a buck down in our field and he wants to shoot it. We told him, 1. our property is posted, and 2. we don't like people using their dogs to chase deer. He in return told us, "Well you should let me get him, 'cause my dog tore up his back legs chasing him, and he'll probably be in a lot of pain."Well we chased him off our property and later my Grandpa had to go out and find the deer and put it out of its misery. His back legs were torn down to the bone and the poor thing couldn't even stand when we found it. The worst thing of all, was that the buck was only a couple years old, and a 3 pointer.
Danno Curfman
Yea I don't see much fun in using dogs to hunt deer. Actually sounds kind of boring.It is illegal here and more than likely not you, but your dog, will probably get shot. No one like's deer chasers.
seth baker
Lol i have thought about it many times. but the repercussions for shooting one is not worth the headache. laterDavid Tomlinson
Hell no! Not fair or even sportmans like. Takes the fun out of the huntdouglas bobbitt
it not hunting useing dogs on deer . my buddy did start his dog on blood tracking and we have used him to track deer and 2 bears and we havent lost a deer or a bear thanks to that little dog.i think that is the only place for a dog in the deer woods.seth baker
I can't agree more if you get a bad shot on a deer the best hope you have of recovering it is dogsTrevor Ritchie
I have used dogs for deer hunting but only for pointing or tracking a wounded animal